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lilaa
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 22:29




Thank you Svetlana :AddEmoticons04225.gif:
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 22:49




Will be more :rolleyes: ... be patient ;)
 
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dimitra
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 22:52




PLushy arrived ,his flight arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11:00 SU4305 (SVO) Arrived at 11:00 D67

he is in vancouverrrrr!!!!!!!!!! :36_1_13.gif:

Edited by dimitra - 11/2/2010, 22:55
 
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lilaa
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 22:55




wueeeeeeeeeeee!!!! :AddEmoticons0218.gif:
 
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dimitra
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 22:58




omg, with all the difficult stuff these days with my friend, i m crying happy ...finally, he is in Olympic Games 2010.

I still cant believe it...
 
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lilaa
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 23:02




We are here to be happy and sad with you Dimi :AddEmoticons04225.gif:
We will celebrate this Olympics and Evgeni Victorovich Plushenko, TOGETHER, no matter what happens!
The Olympic games are here!!!!! :plushyoly:
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 11/2/2010, 23:17




One more video from airport ^_^

- view: http://zvezdanews.ru/video/0039317/
- download:
2010-02-11 Airport - Plushy departure from Russia (Zvezda news).flv
www.mediafire.com/download.php?ejmyodajzez

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... in "Ria novosti" video, Plushy just said that he will not give anyone a statements during the Olympics - this is his "old", successful tradition, and he does not intention to change something :15f535z.gif: :2hx3inp.gif:
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 00:04




http://en.rian.ru/sports/20100211/157845078.html
MOSCOW, February 11 (RIA Novosti)

Plushenko after Vancouver gold, ready to face pressure - coach

Evgeni Plushenko is in good shape to win the Olympic gold and is ready to face pressure on the ice and beyond in Vancouver, the coach training the legendary Russian figure skater said on Thursday.

"Zhenya (shortened name of Evgeni) is in the right mood, he is in good physical shape and has his skills. He just needs a little luck," Alexei Mishin said at a Moscow airport before departing for Canada.

Mishin said the Russian figure skating team is "powerful" enough, but winning Olympic prizes will be difficult as a fierce fight will break out on the rink and around it.

"We are prepared to face pressure. I do not expect a warm welcome. The Russian team is very strong, therefore we face a struggle on the skating rink and beyond," Mishin said in an apparent reference to the 2002 Olympic judging controversy involving the Russian and Canadian pairs figure-skaters.

The scandal in Salt Lake City, when a French judge admitted bias in favor of Russia's Yelena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze, led to a major scoring overhaul. Jamie Sale and David Pelletier were also awarded gold medals after a furious debate that engulfed the Games for nearly a week.

Plushenko, the 2006 Olympic winner and three-time world champion, denied an interview on Thursday saying it was bad luck. "I do not give interviews before major competitions," he said.

The 27-year-old returned to the ice late last year - after a three-year retirement he himself imposed following his stunning performance in Torino - easily winning an international Moscow cup in October and the Russian national championship in December. He also triumphed at last month's European Championships.

In an earlier interview, Plushenko said he hopes to perform two quadruple jumps in his free skating program in Vancouver.

The other contenders for the men's singles throne include Olympic silver medalist Stephane Lambiel of Switzerland, former world champion Brian Joubert from France, and Canadian favorite Patrick Chan.

The Canadian city will host the Winter Games on February 12-28. Figure skating events begin on February 14.
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 02:41




http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug...=yhoo&type=lgns
By Elvis Stojko, Yahoo! Sports 1 hour, 31 minutes ago

Five to watch: Men’s figure skating

Men’s figure skating will be one exciting event in Vancouver, where it really can be anybody’s game if one contender does well and another falters. Also, the jumps have to be completed, so the quadruple will be a factor.

Some would disagree with that last comment.

The naysayers believe the quadruple does not need to be included to succeed at these Olympics. However, this is a sport where the element of risk is needed. Boring is the program without the challenge. If you want to pull the “artistry” card, then go watch a show.

Artistry can mean different things to different people, and many skaters in the men’s event who have more strength and power with masculine movement have been criticized for not being artistic enough. So to level the playing field, they say, “Fine, I will add harder jumps to get the points.”

The bigger issue is that artistry in the men’s event has been defined by the judges and the people in the system. They think classical music with effeminate movement is artistic, so as soon as a male skater finishes off a movement with elegant hand gestures – bam! – they are considered artistic.

I can appreciate the talent in all skaters. But to gain more viewers – namely from the male audience – skaters need to add more power and underlying strength. I can relate to that; effeminate movement I cannot.

Here are my five to watch in the men’s competition.

Evgeni Plushenko

Being the reigning Olympic champion, the Russian faces quite a bit of pressure, but as the most consistent skater by far, he is the one to beat.

His ability to lay it down when it counts is what makes him difficult to beat under pressure. He has an arsenal of top-notch jumps, including the quadruple-toe-loop, triple-toe-loop combination in both short and long programs. Because of its high risk, not many of the men are doing this combination in the short program, though that could change at the Olympics. We’ll see who will risk it to get the points.

While the boldness and consistency of Plushenko’s jumps are his strength, his spins don’t compare to some of his competitors’, and his overall step sequences sometimes seem a little out of control. Still, the overall power is there. The step sequences don’t seem as intricate as some other skaters’, but his personality really comes through, and that connects him with the audience and judges. Another advantage is Plushenko’s dynamics and change-up of movement throughout the program – that keeps his programs from getting stale.

Plushenko has had a strong season with Cup of Russia, Russian Nationals and European Championships, and he will carry that confidence into the Games. I don’t think he’s peaked yet, and that’s a positive. A negative factor is a knee problem that should be fine if his knee holds up during his training before crunchtime. If it doesn’t, he could be skating on his heels a bit and not at his full speed.

Prediction: Plushenko is the favorite, and to beat him you have to knock him out – simply skating well won’t cut it. He’ll take home the gold.

Evan Lysacek

The reigning world champion has kept himself quite composed. Some people may think his loss at the U.S. Championships was a disappointment, but I think it’s an advantage.

Building for the Olympics is key. You never leave your best performance at a smaller competition. He tried the quadruple toe loop and missed it. To me, that showed guts, knowing he will need at least one to take down Plushenko.

A quadruple jump changes the whole dynamics of the program and is not simply added at the last minute. Lysacek has done it in the past, and getting it out there under pressure is the only way. Doing it in practice means nothing. The experience of attempting one under pressure will give you confidence the next time.

Lysacek’s jumps are quite good, but he must keep them clean since they don’t have the explosive height or power of some other men’s. His long line works to his advantage, but his arm movement can become busy, and his flailing with no connection to music can look messy.

This can get overdone throughout the program. And sometimes his movements and approach to the program become soft and lack impact. His spins are solid and positions are good. (The reason I haven’t talked much about spins is that I don’t like the new system, and all the changing of edges and weird positions kill the speed and clean look of the spin.)

With his height (6-foot-2) and long legs, the depth of his edges works to his advantage – but again, the flailing, nondescript arms can be a problem.

Prediction: A solid performance with the quad in the long and a clean short program could place him in second, but some skaters will have to underperform for him to medal.

Brian Joubert

He’s Mr. Almost But Not Quite. Other than his win at worlds in 2007, Joubert has been knocking at the door, but then when there is an opening, he misses the opportunity completely. The problem: He simply wants it too much.

The last few seasons have been up and down for the Frenchman, but I feel it’s all coming together for him. Joubert has been building toward Olympic success with some big jumps, including two quadruples in the long program and one in the short. If he hits them, he can win gold.

Joubert’s triple axel is his weak link, and he must focus to keep it in line. His spins are average, but he is using the system to his advantage. A lot of the weird positions the system asks of these skaters are unnatural, and Joubert, being a natural jumper, has a more explosive body that lends itself to expand-and-contract movement rather than long, stretched-out movements. This makes his spins tougher, but with the overall movement, he still has a more exciting program.

Some people may say Joubert is rough around the edges, but I prefer to call it real and organic skating without the fluff. One thing Joubert needs to stop doing is showing how disappointed he is after a bad skate. Skating around circles with a down attitude after the performance still affects the energy of the judges. Head up, Joubert!

Prediction: With his experience, Joubert could upset the lot and pull out a second-place finish and even push Plushenko for the top spot. He just needs to keep calm and continue to attack. But I don’t see him medaling.

Patrick Chan

At 19, the world silver medalist is the youngster in this bunch, but he handles himself as if he has been there for years. The big question is whether he can handle the pressure of being in his home country for the Games. We shall see.

Chan has the ability to medal, but he has to keep his big jumps – triple axel and triple-axel combination – consistent. Since he’s said he won’t try a quadruple jump, he’ll need a flawless performance if the competition hits its big jumps.

Overall, Chan’s jumps are strong, but they aren’t as powerful as some other skaters’. Consistency will be key in the combination jump of triple axel/triple toe loop in the long program. He will need two triple-triple combinations in the long program, along with a clean short program, to win gold.

His spins are solid and fast with good positions. His overall footwork is strong, and he has a good sense of line and awareness of his body. But sometimes Chan’s programs seem too busy and lack a connection to the music. There is a lot of sameness, and it loses the excitement. That’s why nailing the big jumps is so crucial for him.

Prediction: Chan will finish third – but if the others have trouble on the big jumps, he could place higher on the fact he played it safe. Still, aren’t the Olympics about giving everything you got?

Daisuke Takahashi

It’s great to see Takahashi back in action after being off the circuit with a knee injury. His musicality is top-notch, and his presentation is fantastic. I talk about the need for dynamics in a program, and this Japanese skater has it all the way – although at times his finishing off of a movement can come off a bit too soft and lacks the underlying masculine strength. But I’m splitting hairs here.

Takahashi’s jumps are strong, and they have great loft. The quadruple toe loop, a factor in this competition, isn’t as consistent as it could be, owing to his time off for knee surgery. But my hat’s off to him. He works all aspects of his skating: spins, the quad, and all the connecting pieces.

His personality also really shines through, more than any other skater’s in the field – though he can get a little wild with movement and lose his focus for the jumps, and the program can unravel with a stream of mistakes. He will need all his jump weapons to make it happen, and if he can keep his focus and include the quadruple toe loop, he can take it all.

Prediction: Second place with an absolute shot at first. He is most unique, but to take the top spot, he needs to land the jumps and knock out Plushenko.

Takahiko Kozuka

He may not be one of my top picks to medal, but I love to watch this skater, also from Japan. His edges and ease of skating are by far my favorites.

Strong jumps with good solid spins and skating skills make Kozuka very competitive. He has a gentleman’s style that is awesome to watch – without all the flamboyant “look at me” fluff and overly feminine finished-off movements that plague some male skaters.

Style and class are what I see in Kozuka. The only thing holding him back from the top spots is getting the jumps done under pressure, with a quad to knock them all out.

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www.nbcolympics.com/news-features/news/newsid=408208.html
Feb 11, 1:58p By Matt Stroup

International stars set to shine in Vancouver
Crosby, Heil and Plushenko among those facing gold-medal pressure


Beyond the 216 athletes competing for the U.S. in Vancouver, there are upwards of 2,500 athletes representing more than 80 nations worldwide at the XXI Olympic Winter Games. Here's a look at 10 prominent international stars to watch:
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Yevgeny Plushenko, Russia, Figure Skating:
Retired for three years after his Olympic gold in Torino, Plushenko returned to competition this season and promptly recaptured the European title. The 27-year-old sports car enthusiast has achieved true A-list status in Russia - his wedding, streamed live on the Internet, featured guests such as former WBA heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev, Olympic gymnastics gold medalist Svetlana Khorkina and a handful of Russian music stars. Plushenko has also made a name for himself politically in his home nation, serving on the St. Petersburg parliament and playing a role in the development of the 2014 Olympic Winter Games in Sochi, Russia.

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http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-features/n...ympic+questions
Feb 11, 11:40a By Matt Stroup

Vonn, White and the 10 key Olympic questions

Answers will be abundant after the first few days of competition in Vancouver, but until then, there are more than a few questions to be asked about the upcoming edition of the Olympic Winter Games. Here are 10 of the most pressing:
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Can Yevgeny Plushenko extend the Russian men's figure skating dynasty?
Competitors from Russia and the former Soviet Union have won the last five Olympic gold medals in the men's singles event, a streak that appeared to be in jeopardy when Plushenko retired following his gold medal in Torino. However, Plushenko returned to action this season after a three-year absence, claiming the European title to re-establish himself as the favorite for gold in 2010.

 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 05:48




Typical for Chan's <_< - in the first half of the sentences offend, and in second "boasts" :wacko:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...CTPFht4-ifOKT_g
By Emmeline Moore (AFP)

Patrick Chan blasts 'old' Plushenko

VANCOUVER — World silver medallist Patrick Chan dubbed his Olympic rival Yevgeny Plushenko as 'old' as the Canadian teenager insisted his style of skating was the one of the future.

The 19-year-old found himself at the centre of a row amid allegations of North American lobbying against European figure skaters ahead of the men's figure skating event in Vancouver.

Chan is bidding for Canada's first men's figure skating gold but he is up against European rivals including Plushenko and Brian Joubert of France, who are renowned for their quadruple jumps which he does not possess as he focuses more on transitions and step sequences which are rewarded highly under the new judging system.

And allegations of American lobbying erupted after it emerged that Joe Inman, a veteran US Olympic level skating judge, sent e-mails to judges and officials reminding them to mark presentation scores accurately.

Inman sent the e-mails after he heard that Plushenko had said after winning a sixth European title that both he and former world champion Joubert do not have any transitions moves linking elements together because they focus on their jumps, implying how could they be awarded marks for something they do not do.

Chan refused to be drawn into the controversy, but said he believed that the style of skating of 27-year-old Russian Plushenko, who has returned to competition in a bid to defend his Olympic title, was out of date.

"For me the transitions are one of the most important things in a programme, otherwise it's very boring to watch," he said.

"Above all in a programme like the Phantom of the Opera which I do for the long programme. It's important to have good transitions to interpret the music with unique footwork.
I love the new system, it's a great way to promote an all around skater especially a skater like me," said Chan.

"He's (Plushenko) confident that the quad will really help him, that he doesn't need transitions. He's old, I can't tell him it's not good. :wacko:

I think we'll start seeing more skaters like me in future generations."

Chan believes that Plushenko and Joubert will try and intimidate him with the quad in practice ahead of the competition.

"Of course they'll (Plushenko and Joubert) do it in practice and will nail it on front of me. :P It's totally normal that's why the Olympics are so special. I'll only use that to feed the fire and focus on what I can do.

It's going to be exciting to see what Plushenko has up his sleeve. We're all a bunch of great skaters. It's whoever who can grasp that moment on that Tuesday and Thursday."

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http://ca.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/i...0100211?sp=true
Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:32am, By Pritha Sarkar

Quad wrangle splits scoring debate

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VANCOUVER (Reuters) - Yevgeny Plushenko has yet to make his grand entrance, his rivals have yet to lace up their boots in competition but the figure skating judging system is already under scrutiny at the Olympics.

Battle lines have been drawn between Europe -- represented in the blue corner by quad-jump specialists such as Russia's reigning Olympic champion Plushenko -- and North America -- represented in the red corner by non-risk takers such as Canada's Patrick Chan.

At the heart of the debate is the way officials tally up the marks to reward skaters for their performances and a feeling among some athletes that judges have pre-conceived ideas about reputations rather than that day's performance.

"Right now if I skate clean programmes, I know I won't be judged as high (as Plushenko)," said Austrian Viktor Pfeifer. (.. they just found, whom to ask :lol: )

"At the moment it's hard for an unknown skater to get a lot of recognition, you have to work for it, you don't get it automatically.

"If we had a stopwatch and we could measure stuff like that, then it would be perfect but that's not possible because it's an artistic sport and it's subjective and you can't blame the judges for that."

The old 6.0 format was dumped following the 2002 Salt Lake City judging scandal and a revamped accumulative points system was introduced in its place.

The first score is for technical content and this is easy to justify as every skill has a pre-determined difficulty level. But it is the second mark, for execution or presentation, that can still be very subjective and open to criticism.

DIZZYING SPINS

Skaters such as Plushenko and former world champion Brian Joubert are usually more athletic than their non-European counterparts and bank on earning the bulk of their scores by performing high-risk elements such as quadruple jumps.

The North Americans, however, struggle with the soaring jumps and instead concentrate on intricate footwork, dizzying spins and artistic choreography to impress the judges.

The last two world titles were won by North Americans -- Jeffrey Buttle and Evan Lysacek -- and neither attempted a quad during their routines.

"I love the new system. It's a great way to promote an all-around skater, especially a skater like me," Chan told reporters. (yes, thus skate so many people "around"... recreationally :P)

Plushenko and Joubert disagree and believe that quadruple jumps deserve higher marks.

ISU president Ottavio Cinquanta told Reuters the new system offers a balance that did not exist before.

"We give the tools to the judges but they are human beings. This judging system has rendered skating a measurable sport."

Skate Canada's high performance director Mike Slipchuk said that despite all the loopholes in the system, it was at least more balanced than the 6.0 format.

"We have a lot of faith in the judging system. I have always found it fair and know the right skaters will be on the podium here. The judging panel is a mix of officials from all over the world and it's not a North America versus Europe versus Asia.

"You have eight to 10 people that on a given day in the men's event could win this year. I don't think there is one person who is clearly miles ahead of the pack.

"Can someone really come out of nowhere and win? They can. It was a lot harder in the 6.0 system to do that. If you're good overall skater, you can be very successful very quickly." (...and, this is good? :woot: <_< )
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 06:12




QUOTE (cekoni @ 11/2/2010, 03:21)
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/sports/olympics/11plushenko.html
By CHRISTOPHER CLAREY, Published: February 10, 2010

Plushenko, the Quad King , Is Back for More
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"Update" text's above :rolleyes: - add the following paragraphs ;)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/sports/o...ner=rss&emc=rss
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Plushenko has not done two quads in a program yet, but he insists that this is part of his Olympic plan for Canada, a country that evokes pleasant memories. It was there that he defeated the Canadian star Elvis Stojko in Skate Canada as a teenager, and it was there that he won his first world championship, in 2001 in Vancouver, and then gave the skating world a big hint that he was not just a bland jumping prodigy by performing a strip tease to “Sex Bomb” in the gala that followed.

He is considering a new version at the post-Olympic gala, but what he really wants to do in Vancouver is wear another medal, most preferably gold, before seriously considering whether he wants to keep jumping until 2014, when Sochi will become the first Russian city to stage the Winter Olympics.

“I don’t know yet,” he said, his voice a rumble. “They would like me, too. But you know, 31, it’s going to be too hard. If I need half an hour to walk in the mornings now, I’ll need maybe an hour then.”
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 08:08





http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/va...ge_N.htm?csp=34
By Kelly Whiteside, USA TODAY, Updated 3h 51m

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INMAN'S E-MAIL

American judge Joe Inman, who is not working the competition at Vancouver, last month sent an e-mail to judges, skating officials, friends and some members of the media, that was seen as critical of Russian skater Evgeni Plushenko, the defending Olympic champ:

I THINK THIS WAS FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE AT EUROPEANS---TALE TELL IN MY OPINION----MAYBE ALL JUDGES SHOULD READ THIS CIAO JOE I FIND THIS AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION OF HIS OWN SKATING AND THE JUDGES' MARKING OF HIS TRANSITIONS. WHEN HE SAYS "WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRANSITIONS" WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO A MARK? INTERESTING INDEED!!!!!!

"In Tallinn, Brian Joubert got more points for his transitions than me, although we did exactly the same transitions on the ice. In fact, we don’t have any transitions because we focus on our jumps." Evgeny Plushenko

He think, he think... <_< ... no, this is MAYBE Plushy's unauthorized statement from "informal" press conference in Bratislava, occasion "after-Oly" show tours! :angry:


Olympian Johnny Weir criticizes U.S. skating judge

VANCOUVER — It wouldn't be the Winter Olympics without a figure skating controversy. On Thursday U.S. skater Johnny Weir sharply criticized a veteran U.S. judge's actions and questioned whether American skaters might be judged more harshly as a result.

Earlier this month Joe Inman, a top international judge, sent an e-mail to friends, including some judges, about comments made by Russia's defending gold medalist, Evgeni Plushenko. The intent of the e-mail has since been misconstrued, says Inman, and has set off an international firestorm … that there is a North American bias against European figure skaters," according to Toronto's The Globe and Mail.

Weir joined the chorus of criticism after his first practice, saying, "I am very offended that an American judge started this whole thing. I think it's a smear on my face and my reputation as an American figure skater and I hope he's banned from judging for the rest of his life. Coming into the Olympic Games, America already has an iffy public image and for him to basically attack every other skater in the world …

Even though he did that trying to support American skaters, it's my reputation. Am I going to be judged differently because of what some stupid American judge did? Because I'm an American, am I going to be judged more harshly than somebody else? It wasn't the time or the place. Politics in figure skating isn't an abnormal thing but you don't do it and smear your team a week before the Olympic Games.
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Inman, who is not a judge at the Vancouver Olympics, said in a phone interview Thursday that the intent of the e-mail has been "twisted."

"I love this sport and I'm in it to make it better and to be fair to the athletes and it's being twisted in so many directions," Inman said. "It was a private, Plain Jane e-mail to friends. They've asked me to send things that they don't necessarily get. I don't know who on that list is judging the Olympics, I don't even care."

When asked about Weir's comments, Inman said, "Whatever reason he wanted to say that, that's fine. He's entitled to free speech."

U.S. Figure Skating doesn't share Weir's concern about possible backlash toward Americans from Olympic judges, said spokesperson Scottie Bibb.

Plushenko and France's Brian Joubert, both excellent jumpers, have long been criticized for lacking transitional moves between their elements. Last month Plushenko said, "If the judges want someone to place high, they can arrange it. Like (at the European championships) in Tallinn, (France's) Brian Joubert got more points for his transitions than me, although we did exactly the same transitions on the ice. In fact, we don't have any transitions because we focus on our jumps." (... again they! :angry: )

Inman forwarded that quote, writing: "I find this an interesting observation of his own skating and the judges' marking of his transitions."

Inman's seemingly innocuous comment then escalated into a controversy. "It just proves that the North American lobby is on its way," Didier Gailhaguet, the president of the French skating federation, told French sports magazine, L'Equipe.

Given the depth of the men's competition, which begins Tuesday, the event was already considered a must-see of these Games. Now, it might be even more explosive for different reasons.

Does Weir's sentiment have merit? Will Plushenko be more closely scrutinized?

"The program component (artistic) scores are where you can 'cheat' regardless of whether you do transitions or not," Weir said. "If you're Evgeni Plushenko then you're going to get high scores. You're reigning Olympic champion, you deserve those high scores. A lot of people are often over-marked. If you don't jump that well, they have to keep the big names at the top somewhere. If Plushenko missed his quad and if everything is based on reality, you're getting Plushenko in 10th place? I don't think so. That's not going to happen."

Pointed criticism about Plushenko's artistry was also voiced in a series of judges' educational videos which critiqued Plushenko's 2006 Olympic performance. The Russian skating federation demanded that the International Skating Union remove Plushenko from the videos, three people with knowledge of the videos told USA TODAY. Plushenko had retired from the sport when the experts selected examples of skaters' work to show on the DVDs. (..... journalists! :o: .... if anyone of them read the official statement of ISU?! :angry: )

The issue isn't likely to subside. Mike Slipchuk, Canada's director of high performance, said he hopes the issue doesn't distract from the competition. "These athletes have worked so hard to get here," Slipchuk said. "When comments like that come out it pits the athletes against each other. They're just out there to do their job. Hopefully we can move on from this."
 
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kudryavka
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 08:11




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"It was a private, Plain Jane e-mail to friends. They've asked me to send things that they don't necessarily get. I don't know who on that list is judging the Olympics, I don't even care."

Shame on you.

He should leave the post of judge, as Johnny said. BTW I also don't know who sold him out to Europe :36_1_20.gif:
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 12/2/2010, 08:29




QUOTE (kudryavka @ 12/2/2010, 08:11)
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"It was a private, Plain Jane e-mail to friends. They've asked me to send things that they don't necessarily get. I don't know who on that list is judging the Olympics, I don't even care."

Shame on you.

He should leave the post of judge, as Johnny said. BTW I also don't know who sold him out to Europe :36_1_20.gif:

Yes..... "just for few friends, just them 60..." :wacko: <_<
 
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